The national website for the
U.S. Court of Veterans Appeals
is located at WWW.VETAPP.GOV
for those who may not have
known it. There you will find
that William Greene is the
Chief Judge of the Court.

The CVA has been a bone of
contention by all of us here
at Vets For Justice for a
long time. So as I take on
this important Blog to klunk
heads with the Chief Judge
who is also a distinguished
Army veteran himself, please
keep in mind that actions
in government are fair play
between protesting Veterans,
and our cause is noble to
facilite sweeping change
inside of this herrendous
and shocking horror of an
SCC disability system.

William Greene at face value
would seem to be qualified
for the job that he sits in
at the Court of Veterans
Appeals. He is in all ways,
a law practitioner, a former
Army JAG prosecutor, and
he was appointed in 1997 to
be Chief Judge to sit out
a 15 year term there.

Looking at what we are
getting for nominees at
the U.S. Supreme Court
these days, we can probably
thank our lucky stars that
the guy even graduated from
law school.

But the Devil is in the
details.

Totally innocent veterans
around the USA who are
legitimately applying for
their SCC disability benefits
are being treated by this
very court as if we are
all high profile felons
sitting on the FBI Most
Wanted lists. We know this
by way of the prosecutor
style techniques that are
being used on sick and
incapacitated medical patients
who are without licensed
attornies, and are klunking
around by themselves inside
this court. One only needs
to devote the time to
reading individual cases
to see what an abomination
of academia is going on
at the CVA as I speak.

From document falsification,
to deliberate Clerk "error",
to BVA phoney Remand Orders,
to VARO refusing to even
process some cases for years
gone by, this court in a
serious way has a bug up
its ass that needs to be
yanked with pliers before
it spreads!!

We are, apparently, the only
court in the United States
whereby the Chief Judge is
not a former judge at all,
but a former prosecutor. This
is something for everyone to
ponder.

Even more stunning, the CVA
employee statutes are written
so that the lower employees
of the court, such as the Clerk
and Law Clerk etc., specifically
states "...The Clerk shall
serve at the PLEASURE of the
court....." Whatever THAT
means !!!! 38 USCA 7281

To appreciate just how disturbing
this statute is in the Veterans
arena, i.e. the place where
former national security workers
of the United States government
holding top secret security
clearances are trying to receive
disability benefits, one has to
study and take in just what
exactly this 3-Ring Circus of
a Monkey Squad that this CVA
court really is (and not what
it ought to be)!

I used to work for VACO in
Washington from 1972-1974 just
long enough to watch Richard
Nixon resign like a nut job
in the White House rose garden.
So for point #1, how about
this ----- If the Court
employees are to work "at the
PLEASURE of" someobody, then
wouldn't it be a good idea to
do psychological testing on
the person who is being
"pleasured" ???? Just what,
exactly, is the national
employment standard for being
"pleasured" in a court system
anyway?? Does anybody really
know?

In this day and age of nut
jobs from fired FEMA Director
Michael Brown, to mouthy Trent
Lott in the Senate, why on
earth would any Congressional
body of Morons pass a statute
that would place the national
Veterans medical patient
population in the hands of a
raving psychopath, and then
just stand around and wait for
dead bodies to fall before they
do something ???? Inquiring
Vet minds want to know.
where Oh Where is the "public
safety" in this pleasure
scheme?

And since when is any Court
of the United States all about
THEM, anyway?? How is it that
they are all there to "pleasure"
themselves, at the same moment
in time when we are anything
BUT "pleasured" inside this
arena?? This is a fair question
to know. And will somebody
please explain to me what
all this "pleasuring" stuff
is, to begin with?? Who knew?

The Court evolved in a time
and history when the VA was
nothing more than a small
Board itself, with a single
World War Vet population.
Nobody knew at the time that
the thing would grow
into a full blown Cabinet
agency operation, with an
entire Army of prosecutor-style
Attornies lined up at the
agency against sick, injured,
medicated, and incapacitated
medical patients who have no
access to licensed lawyers
themselves.

Here lies the major league
bungling and incompetence of
our national groups [ VFW,
DAV, and American Legion ],
for literally rubber-stamping
this court system into existance
without ever bothering to
study and question the agency's
motives. What these 3 bungling
groups did was to snore while
a predatory, hate-crime
operation was slowly moved
into power right before their
very eyes which has now grown
into an identity that would
make Adolf Hitler and Ho Chi
Minh proud to be American !!

The Court of Veterans Appeals
is a group of sick and
perverted men with sick and
perverted causes, and even
if a woman veteran were
appointed to work as an
employee there to blow the
whistle on their cruel and
inhumane practices, she would
still be bound by statute
to "pleasure" the assholes
at every turn!! What's up
with THAT???

Where, exactly, is the
pleasure-statute for fair and
impartial JUSTICE???

If it becomes the "pleasure"
of the Republicans to murder
every U.S. veteran on the
planet, this bungled display
of a malpracticed statute
gives carte blanch permission
to do so without a single
overseer in Congress to
intervene and question what
is going on. The only focus
of the law is to "pleasure"
the Chief Judge. Yes, it's
the Count Dracula Court of
Veterans Appeals, signed,
sealed, and delivered by
a bungling U.S. Congress.

There you have it. The murder
factory is also a pleasure
factory and it's all at the
hands of William Greene, U.S.
Army Veteran-gone-amuck!!

We, the medical patients of
the VA system, are NOT felons
nor do we need a prosucutor
to "adjudicate" [or shall I
say "falsify"] our legal
cases, and to hide and
conceal the murder
factory by way of their
personal "pleasure".
That is exactly what is
going on inside this
unscrutinized, unsupervised,
uquestioned,
un-psychologically
tested, uninformed,
unethical, unprecedented,
and unqualified nut farm of
an operation which has been
set into motion by the
Republicans and is undoable
by any statute on the books.

Members of the public,
friends, and family members
of the Veterans would do
well to help us organize
against the very existance
of the CVA court as we know
it, and put down this
hate-crime of an operation
against the disabled which
is prematurely killing our
Veterans and their families
to boot! To hell with Iraq,
Kuwait, and Afghanistan ---
The REAL terrorists are
HERE in phoney black robes,
pleasuring themselves and
sitting in Washington DC
under the disquise of a JAG
Officer and the mirage of
a real justice court.
Give me a BREAK !!

It's all about problem
definition here, and once
all of us begins to see
the size and scope of
the problem that we are
all up against, it will
dawn on our national
conscience that the VA
is a place of human rights
violations, one after
another, and upon closer
inspection, it may very
well exceed the matters
at Abu Graib or Guantanamo.

We as Veterans, must stop
standing in a corner just
because a Veteran is at
the front of the ship.
It's all about smoke and
mirrors in this government,
and William Greene has been
put there to hold all of us
at bay so we will not rise
up and protest this
shocking situation.

So let me be the first,
as an Army veteran and
medical patient myself,
to throw down the gauntlet
with Judge William Greene
and say on a personal
note: "Judge Greene,
You're FIRED !!"

Does anybody else want
to add to that?????

[QUOTE]My God, there are over 28 Million of us Veterans, not counting dependents, relatives and veteran supporters!
I have sent this letter to all Senators and Congressional Reps who would accept letters from outside their districts and to every newspaper and radio talk show that I found the address for. I would highly suggest that all Military Veterans do the same (use my letter or better yet, write one of your own) if you have any interest in your earned and promised military benefits, past, current and future:
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Talleagle; In my pursuit since 2002, of VA violation of 38 USC 1722a,(presently docketed with the BVA) because I see a violation. There are a few veterans that don't, and will not question the VA. I guess because they are afraid the will somehow loose their VA benefits, which they will loose anyway sooner or later. Because, there are some veterans' that will not fight. And this is why the picture for veterans keeps getting worse. I have, written Senators, Representatives, American Legion, newspapers, etc., I have found out, other than interested veterans, what you may have discovered, nobody else cares! But, like you, I am sick of watching VA benefits dwindle. But like you, I will not stop, I just started.
================================================I recently wrote a letter to a Florida Judge Jere Tolton, in support of veteran Larry Snyder, who's ex is attempting through the Court Order, to secure his "Veterans' Administration (VA) disability benefits.."
This, as you may know, has been ruled, for example, by the Florida 5th District Court of Appeals, .."the court erred in using the Former Husband's disability benefits as the source of alimony." But you see how they will still try, anyway they can, to kick the veteran again, and again.
Haiki

But as long as we keep going, we keep going.
Haiki

Thanks for your info. I am sure
that many people will agree with
you. The Big 3 veterans
organizations are lobbyists
for the VA and not the
veterans and it is
there that many of us part
company with them. The VA
has the money to hire their
own lobbyists, but the
Veterans don't. The reason
why veterans are in the
mess that they are is
because of The Big 3.

Sue, you can't really be surprised! The Court of Military Appeals is like the Pentagon, the DOD, the VA and every other Government agency that is "supposed" to be in "support" of the Veteran?! Everyone who puts on a helmet with the name "Court of Military Appeals, or "Pentagon", etc., is not a qaulified player for what they are "supposed" to represent. They are players for the current Administration! All of the Veteran Groups need to come together and get together as one voice and one by one eliminate satisfactorily each Veteran Issue until we have all issues satisfied. My God, there are over 28 Million of us Veterans, not counting dependents, relatives and veteran supporters!
I have sent this letter to all Senators and Congressional Reps who would accept letters from outside their districts and to every newspaper and radio talk show that I found the address for. I would highly suggest that all Military Veterans do the same (use my letter or better yet, write one of your own) if you have any interest in your earned and promised military benefits, past, current and future:
As a former Republican constituent for 46 years, I stay visually fixed on what takes place on “Capital Hill”, very carefully I read everything that pertains to the Military Veterans, since it addresses the Bush administration’s goal to saddle veterans with more costs. I find it interesting that a group of people that always talks a good game about how much we owe our servicemen and women continues to find ways to place more of the budgetary burden on them. President Bush seems intent on forgetting commitments to those of us who have served the country. I also find it interesting the “politically beneficial” programs like better office buildings for our representatives, foreign aid, etc.; seem to be worthwhile initiatives that just get funded as needed. Frankly, I am tired of veterans getting the short end, and think it’s time to start pushing and protecting our benefits through another avenue of political leverage by promoting the “Veterans Party of America” http://www.veteransparty.us
I remember very clearly, President Bush’s remarks before the American People on national TV, “Promises made, will be promises kept”, during his campaign for President. After winning the election, promises were just promises “made”. The exact campaigning procedure that “all” politicians use to abuse the “Veteran”.
Our most revered Founding Father George Washington gave an eloquent warning, saying, “The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional to how they perceive the veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their nation.”
There was a time in past years, which I strongly promoted serving “the country” to all young people. Now, I cautiously warn them of the “political” dangers for serving “the country”, as all my comrades are doing.
We “veterans” know very well that you can implement again the draft, but, to do so, will cripple America as you will never have the technical and experienced warriors from years of military service again, as most will only stay for the period drafted and have no interests in honing their military skills.
President Ronald Reagan echoed the wisdom of our first president’s remarks when, in signing legislation that established the Department of Veterans Affairs, he said, “America’s debt to those who would fight for her defense doesn’t end the day the uniform comes off. For the security of our nation, it must not end”.
At a time when troops on the ground are protecting our security and defending our cherished freedom, I’m concerned that leaders in Congress are set to test the wisdom of those two great leaders.
I’m reminded of the great poem “Tommy”, “for its Tommy this and Tommy that and chuck him out the brute; but he’s the savior of his nation when the guns begin to shoot”.
With today’s rapid technology on the home computers and e-mail just a few seconds away, leaders on “the hill” should know that it’s almost impossible to hide what goes and what does not go on behind closed doors.
As recently as last year, we were told that this year’s budget approved by Congress was adequate. It’s not true. News reports from across the country give clear evidence that VA is straining and failing to make ends meet. It took an emergency budget meeting to approve $1.5 billion, enough money to get VA’s operating costs current to the date of the requested additional funding, not any surplus to continue current and future operations.
In complete candor, I cannot tell you that in these past months, or under the present circumstances, we are comfortable with the direction taken by our congressional or executive leadership.
What we see and hear disturbs us, because it is clear to veterans that if congressional leadership cannot arrange priorities within a $2.6 trillion budget to meet the benefits veterans earned and richly deserve something are wrong with the priorities being chosen.
In reading last year’s appropriations, I see that there is enough money to spend on Ground Hog Day, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and more than 13,000 lesser priority, non-veteran pet projects. While individually each of these earmarks may account for a small fraction of federal spending, the total cost to taxpayers for these projects in fiscal year 2005 is $27.3 billion.
Incredibly, there is more. Congress last year approved a four-year $1 billion program to pay the medical-care costs of treating illegal immigrants. What signal is being sent, when budget priorities allow health care for illegal immigrants to trump care for veterans?
The priority given health care for illegal immigrants is a stark reminder that this budget proposal is bad news for the nation’s veterans, especially when our courageous troops are engaged in battle overseas.
Oh No; there is more – with the insistence and pressure from DOD, The Pentagon and The VA, Congress approved the “FERES Doctrine” (go to http://www.veteransparty.us click on “opinions and polls”, click on Feres Doctrine), prohibiting military personnel from seeking legal representation in matters involving the violation of their Constitutional Rights, Bill of Rights and Civil Rights. Criminals who commit crimes at all levels including the most heinous are afforded guaranteed legal representation even if the court presiding over them appoints legal counsel at a costs to taxpayer’s.
Whereas, the public record clearly establishes the Feres Doctrine allows widespread corruption and abuse of power within the United States Armed Forces and prevents said corruption from reaching the public domain and is confirmed by the dissenting opinion of Supreme Court Justice Scalia who stated in Johnson v. United States (1987): “Congress’s inaction regarding this doctrine and its doing little, if anything in the way of modifying it to prevent Constitutional claims is clearly unjust and irrational. Again, allowing such power to military leaders can and does result in abuse therefore, where are the checks and balances on the military.” Again, what is the message being sent to the Veterans?
In addition I’m also a victim of the “Uniformed Services Former Spouse Protection Act” (USFSPA). In case you are not familiar with this act, please go to web site http://www.usfspa-lawsuit.info and read about this injustice being done to veterans. Briefly, this law was passed by Congress in 1982 and backdated to 1981 in order to nullify the US Supreme Court’s decision in McCarty vs. McCarty that held a military service members retirement compensation could not be considered as property divisible for equal distribution in divorce cases. The US Supreme Court upheld that military disability compensation could never be garnished for any cause whatsoever.
The USFSPA was attached as a rider to another bill by former Congresswomen Patricia Schroeder (D-CO) and was passed in the middle of the night. This law effectively places retired military service men and women in financial servitude to ex-spouses for the remainder of the retiree’s life without consideration of circumstances for the divorce, such as adultery, abandonment, financial abuse, indebtedness abuse, etc. This law is a windfall for both ex-spouses and their attorneys and gives state court judges free reign on garnishment of military retirement compensation and allows them to further garnish military disability compensation, denying the Constitutional guarantee of “due process” under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
A misconception seems to exist in the Department of Defense and the Pentagon that the Uniformed Services Former Spouse Protection Act (10USC1408) supports military families. Nothing could be further from the truth. Although in the 1980s when the law was enacted it was naively promoted as pro-family legislation, now with more than 23 years of experience it is evident that it serves instead as a lucrative lifetime financial reward for the breakup of military families. All one must do is to look at the military divorce rates to see the disastrous results.
Chairman Buyer recently announced that veterans’ service organizations will no longer have the opportunity to present testimony before a joint hearing of the House and Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committees.
The tradition of legislative presentations by veterans’ service organizations dates back to at least the 1950s. The right to fully participate in the democratic process is a cornerstone of our nation, eliminating these joint hearings is an insult to the men and women who have fought, sacrificed and died to protect our Constitutional rights, including the right to petition the government.
This important dialog between veterans and their elected representatives is crucial to the democratic process and a unique opportunity for the men and women who’ve put their lives on the line for America.
Although it has recently been recognized that veterans’ service organizations have very little impact on veteran issues, as these organizations only present veteran issues, but do not have much input as to the outcome, as they are Congress controlled with the questionable exception of the National Association for Uniformed Services (NAUS).
Many of the veterans who take part in the hearings view it as their patriotic duty, as well as a fundamental right.
If Congress is separating themselves from Veterans, shouldn’t we, the Veterans separate ourselves from them, “by our votes”
As a retired military disabled combat veteran, I have made a solemn oath to stop every young person who appears to be between the ages of 17 and 30, and at each opportunity, to tell them as Paul Harvey would say, “the rest of the story”. Many hundreds of my comrades have made the same solemn oath.
The underlying fact remains – we’ve earned what the nation promised, and so have the new generations of heroes who have stepped forward to serve our country.
Veterans all across the nation are calling on Congress to provide adequate resources to care for America’s veterans, keep the promise and support veteran’s benefits. Repeal discriminatory rules and regulations. Some will say as Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, Dr. David S. C. Chu, “we can’t afford it; it costs too much”
We believe that the price is not too great for the value received.
Sincerely,

RICHARD L. R. THIEL
SFC, USA, Retired
Disabled Combat Veteran
Tampa, Florida