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Over the 2 year period of working
the VDBC Commission, there were 2 key areas where I was able to travel through a real eye-opening experience as an Activist. One was how the news media manages to screw up just about everything it comes in contact with, and the other was how the VSO's performed badly overall and even with that STILL managed to be stuck at the forefront on recognition without ever really lifting a finger. They know this, and perhaps it's the most telling point of all about the Veterans Service Organizations that they don't work and they don't really do anything for Veterans specifically because they don't really have to. Out of The Big 3, American Legion was the most missing in action, followed secondly by Disabled American Veterans. The most participating and last in that order was the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Navy Veteran Gerry Manar was the face of VFW, but even he was a Johnny-Come-Lately of sorts, not really kicking in and grasping what the Commission authority was all about until the last and final months of it's existance. But Gerry is another Treasure-Trove of information which is consistent with all that I've said in past chat blogs about the blurred lines between VSO's and the VA itself. First, let me fairly start with the fact that Gerry is a college graduate with a law degree in place. So what I say next is in the full recognition and context of the fact that he is an example of what we have been advocating for all along, somebody with a formal legal college background to head up national claims for Veterans. But also what goes with this recognition is that Gerry is the exception and not the rule. While he is almost always the public face coming forward at official procedings as a lawyer and Veteran, in some ways this is deceptive because he is but a handful of people like him who are at the forefront of VSO representation. Gerry is just NOW with the VFW. He retired from the VA agency in 2004. He was a VA Claims Adjudicator for 12 years, and a "legal consultant" for the VA Comp and Pen service at VA Washington DC for 6 years. Well ...... this pretty much sums it up, now doesn't it ?? Here he is now spending the past 2 years with me and the other remaing 50 of us at the Veterans Disability Commission hearings only to find out that the entire system is screwed up, broken beyond repair, and the worst it has ever been at this time in history. And yet THIS is the guy who the VFW puts at the center of national TV cameras and microphones to be the voice for Veterans like you and me. Yeah RIGHT, I say. The lines are way way way too much blurred between the missions of the VA agency, and the missions of the Veterans Service Organizations and this is one more example to prove it. When you walk into a VSO, ya just don't know who it is you are dealing with. There are no consumer laws protecting Veterans on organizational disclosures, there are no malpractice statutes protecting the Veterans from bungled claims by these guys, and there is no guarantee that the guy even knows VA law let alone anything else and yet we are expected to blindly walk into these places and handover our POWER OF ATTORNEY for all things near and dear to our own lives just to get a VA disability claim pushed through. At what point do Veterans say "We have had enough on this whole VSO concept and we want change" ?? The VA for decades over decades, has been hiring from the bottom of the barrel for VA Raters, many not even having a college degree, and now that there's a crisis in the national claims backlog, they want to REWARD these fools by derailing the entire VA agency mission into a personal university system just for them alone. With no college degrees in place, there is not even any guarantee that beefed up training would even rescue such a situation. How do you elevate an idiot inside of a full blown legal and public health system? This is a fair question to know. Gerry Manar is in some ways, a part of the deception on VSO's and not really the ICON of what is true throughout. So while we hail Gerry's late-coming revelations in finally coming to the table of Veterans interests late in the game, we still want to know why the Veteran is stuck between the blurred lines of deception in not knowing whether they are dealing with a VA operative or a real activist who is ready to risk it all in the name of getting justice for the sick and injured medical patients. In this game of Washington activism, it's only those who dare to cross the lines who are the winners. Sue Frasier, VEV 1970 Army Signal Corps national activist/protester staff Blogger, VFJ |
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Our experience has been that Vets are not delivering anything better inside this system than anyone other worker. It has become predatory and self-indulgent. You are talking theory and hypotheticals, we are talking "in the know" and how it really is. A Vet who is bungled and incompetent with no law or medical background at all, is the ultimate WORST that we are getting for results inside this arena. Survey's have proven that the most of them are mental cases themselves, so what the Hell exactly, are they doing trying to control the lives of somebody else ?? Go home I say and take care of your own limitations. This crowd at the VSO's are like old people and drunk people who think they can drive cars, and really they can't without killing everybody else who gets in their way. This VA / VSO system is the same exact way. A bunch of self indulging BlowHards who refuse to go home and take care of their own limitations, and then want to control everybody elses papers and claims. It all has to stop so please do see the wisdom in what we are trying to do. Today's claims system needs unmedicated, undisabled, very healthy and agile, alert, YOUNG, college educated people who have a sense of charity and a prideful sense of DUTY. After that, the system will fix itself. We can't get caught up in idealist hypotheticals out here, because the proof is in the verified nightmares and the half million Vet cases making up the bungled up mess of a backlog. This Blog is not about Gerry Manar being a Vet. It's about him being a faker who is the very cause of why the system is a failure and then switching sides after his retirement so he then can bask in the glory of "pretending" that he really cares about what happens to Vets at the hands of his own bungled policies. I know Gerry in person, you don't. Take care. Sue Frasier, VEV 1970 Army Signal Corps national activist/protester staff Blogger, VFJ |
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On this matter I say becareful what you wish for. I do have my degree in Political Science with two minors one is pre-law and the other in HR. The problem I see though is this, would you rather have a college grad with no idea what the miltary is like in there with a degree who has no sympathy for vet, or someone that has military experience and a degree or maybe just formal training. Look if you just ask for a degree what if they give you someone with a degree in basket weaving. I mean havent we learned enough to be more specific about what we request. I agree on most of your points, but have you seen some of the young grads. I mean its a painful truth, but a monkey could get a degree from some colleges. I think a fair request would be a vet with a degree in some type of social science field, or libral arts where they are tought to think. The most important thing being though the vet aspect because without that you just become a number and I for one have had enough of that. I havent noticed in my reading thus far of anyone really gripeing about the rudeness of the people at the call centers. I have been hung on ignored etc. Not to mention that I have dealt with most of the problems as all of you. We all talk on here where its safe, but like another mentioned we all faultor to follow through on our words, and tha my friends is where they get us. We all sit and gripe, but we fail to take actions. I mean yeah sure one or two of us as individuals fight the system, and yeah we win, but then we resume our ususal lives and thats the end. This forum is great, but we should do more. I mean maybe we should form our own agency. Its just the matter of a few tons of paper work, and dedication. I mean it wouldnt cost us anything to start except time. A few web pages. An online newspaper, and a few grants and donoations and boom we have something of our. Then we are the gaurdians of its value and integrity. The time for idle chatter and big words has passed. Maybe its time we stood up and fought for own rights. I know a lot of vets with degrees here in Alabama that have been shafted by the system, and our public, so we have the means the question is do we have the desire to finish what you guys have started here. I'm in I will help anyway I can. If I read something its there forever, so I can be up to speed in however long it takes me to read that U.S.C. Title 38 Code. So lets do it. Lets start something great of our own. We can start where we have people, and start small, and you guys and ladies know vets, word of mouth will take us there. So think about it lets stand up for us all....
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