The Washington ordeal that has
been put upon the Fort McClellan
Veterans in their pursuit of
medical justice is nearing a
final conclusion.

The Veterans Disability Commission
is recommending our Health
Registery and presumptive service
connected statusing, and the VA
Comp & Pen Outreach Office is finally
talking to them in meetings to pave the
way for our Patient Class transition.

A number of the patients from
this same group are also spearheading
the way for overall Patient Class
Reform however, and to fix the
mess that the VSO's have all left
behind for us once and for all
so that no other future Patient
Classes are required to endure
the "litigate & legislate"
solutions for Patient Class recognition
at the VA.

It is truly Dumb on a scale to
have had the VSO's allow this
course of evolution to be written
into stone by one case precedent
after another and perpetrated
upon our constituency whereby verified
disabled and hospital medical
patients are mandated and required
to endure the rigors of an
Act of Congress just to
receive Class Health Registeries
and presumptive Class recognition
inside the VA agency.

The fact that the VSO's all stood
around in their comas and allowed
this to grow and entrench itself
as a de facto policy is
just as incredbily Dumb as the
policy itself.

But many of the women Veterans
now are finding their voices and
their place at the advocacy tables
to spearhead the mandate that
brings a clear and decisive END
to "litigate and legislate" policy,
and to usher in a new mandate
for the VA to open a dam office
to handle that very kind of thing
upon the smiple application of
papers from the various Patient Classes
of Veterans who are seeking Class
recognition in their disability
claims.

While the VSO's have allowed the
whole "litigate & legislate" policy
to grow and entrench itself, it is
the very same VSO's who have refused
to help and assist one Patient
Class after another, including the
Fort McClellan Veterans in
achieving their Class recognition.

The VSO's want all the public
glory in putting out false claims
in their national public fundraising
mailings that they help or legislatively
represent Veterans, while at the same
time, they want no part of the huge
process burden and extended work
that they themselves have created for
us to jump hoops through, to resolve
the life-changing needs of Patient
Class Veterans which includes
presumptive service connected statusing.

I have begun advocating the full
and complete END to litigate & legislate
policy outside of the Veterans
Commission, and we are currently
pitching this Reform to the House
and Senate Veterans Affairs Committees
just in case the Disability Commission
drops the ball on this pressing national
subject.

Veterans and advocates at large,
really do need to get on the same
page with this effort at this time.

We absolutely do need to come together
and recognize the failures and bunglings
of the VSO's, and start taking
bold and decisive action to advocate
for the right universal fixes to this
crisis.

To force disabled and injured medical
patients to face the physical ordeals
which are involved in successfully
launching an Act of Congress is unheard
of in most medical circles.

But in those House and Senate districts
where the congressional types are
useless, dysfunctional, unresponsive,
and uninterested in Veterans Rights
issues, this is exactly what is
playing out in our constituency time
and time again as each new Patient
Class comes forward to identify itself
as in need for medical justice.

The relentless building walking
alone is in many ways, a torturous
ordeal when you are travelling the
full expanse of Capitol Hill.
The Canon House Office Building
is straight at the top of a steep
hill followed by a steep row
of steps leading into the security
checkpoint if you don't happen
to get off at the precisely
correct subway station. This is
a physical challenge that is
exhausting and pain-causing, and
for both the bungling Congressional
representatives and the bungling
VSO's to put patients through
this ordeal is something that
the whole world should know about.

It is the patients themselves who
are deprived and denied their financial
benefits and are trapped in a torturious
and inhumane process from VA Hell,
who are forced to bear the brunt
of all that it takes to become
a Washington lobbyist at the same
moment in time that they are sicker
than a dog and can barely ride
the DC subway.

This all has to end and we must
unite behind the universal fix for it.

The VSO's have led us down the
roads of Doom long enough, and
we absolutely do have to take
on Patient Class Reform for this
new 2007 congressional session.

We are asking for your full support
on this newest agenda item.

McClellan Vet--If you would read the replies to your post you can see that I didn't coment about Fort McClellan and Anniston, Alabama, but on your answer to the person you put down. As for AO I do have a little knowledge being I have many problems due to AO, from beeing in VIET NAM. HAVE A GOOD ONE

REPLY to JIM P:

You are always welcome to
an INFORMED opinion,
and not just stupid ramblings which
are out to hurt innocent medical
patients. There IS a difference.

I don't give a rats ass if anybody
posts to any of my Blogs or not,
thank you. What you should know is
that the hit counters do not
work for unregistered Guests.
So only the logged in members
are recorded for hits, and not
the Guests. Posts and Replies
are not for my purpose, it's
for your own so don't throw
that back into my face as if
it is somehow significant when
it isn't.

And about being right, show me
where I am wrong because I
give out all of my sources in
every case. On the Fort McClellan
matter, your piddly story to
nowhere is totally irrelevant
which is just how far down
the road of wrong you were.

Now, perhaps you can read better
in the future before you run
your mouth in public. Blow Hards
never appreciate being confronted,
so that doesn't bother me at all.

have a good day

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REPLY TO McClellan Vet.You should practice what you preech, it seems like you didn't read what I posted. And I don't like beeing called a dumb-ass or a fool. And with your answer to me,I just take the sorce, and like I said your putting me down, I fought for this country and I have a right to my opinion, and if you was a little more nice you propably would get more replies to your posts. You don't know me from the man in the moon, and beleave it or not you are not always right. This site is for helping out the vets of this country not putting them down, so if you own this site and don't want my opinions just let me know and I'll stay off it.

REPLY TO JIM P:

You got the answer that you did
because you posted a stupid
ass entry without bothering
to read my Blog that the
Fort McClellan matter has
already been resolved federally.

What is it about that you
don't understand??

I could spend my whole day
answering to bullshit and
nonsense from fools who
don't READ !!

And you could do harm to
our efforts and to innocent
Veterans in the mix that I
represent by running your
stupid mouth to the Commission,
when you don't even know what
you are talking about.

Read first, talk later. In
that order. You didn't help
anyone at all in this stupid
move you made.

This is what happens when
people who don't READ and
then pass themselves off
as self-appointed experts
on subjects which they have
never been privied to from
the inner circles.


I hope that gives you a
better explanation. take
care.

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Your pretty hard on fellow vets, why is that? we are all in the same boat, but you talk down to your fellow vets, instead of working together.

Well you are wrong on
several different counts
and this is what comes
out of running your mouth
without being in the
Washington loop.

There will be no lawsuit
for the McClellan vets
so don't hold yer breath.

As a Fort McClellan vet (1966-1968) we were all exposed to PCBs, TCE, and other chemical toxins 24 hours a day, and in extremely high levels. Said toxins were in the ground, air, water, and food chain seven days a week. All proven as material issues of fact over the years.

DOD, as always, never notified anyone.

Yes, Agent Orange/TCDD was used there, and also used, and manufactured less than 100 air miles from McClellan, on other facilities, of record.

Class action litigation will probably be the only resolve, just as the Viet Nam (in country) and Blue water vets had to undertake.
The main difference is the McClellan vets exposure is not presumptive, it is factual.

I have sent testimony to Veterans Commission. However, having worked many years for DOD I doubt presumptive coverage will be granted. Most Commissions/Studies have pre-determined outcomes.

I hope for the best but, am waiting to see class action litigation commence.

Fort McClellan and Anniston Alabama, to date, continue to be one of the largest, covered-up, chemical weapons of mass destruction (love that term), toxic waste sites in the world.